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poor_dad -

With my Word XP (English Version) with Windows XP (English Version), using the Asian Layout
feature I was able to generate Pinyin above Chinese characters. However, I can not do this with
Word 2007 (English Version) with Windows Vista (English Version). I was able to find the Phonetic
Guide that led me to the same screen, but no Pinyin output. I would appreciate any guidance.



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Luobot -

poor_dad,

I'm amazed that you got it to work in Word XP in the first place. I gave up on it in Word 2003, as
using it a few characters at a time, and having to reset the fonts, font size, and the like each
time was totally frustrating me. I've noticed that each new version of Word is worse than the
last. So now I have yet another reason to think about downgrading instead of upgrading. Thanks for
that.










Lugubert -

Thanks, Luobot,

I'm running a Word XP = 2002, and here it works. The tiring thing is that it can only handle some
nine or ten characters at a time. Recording a macro doesn't work, because of the "intelligent"
feature that looks at results, not keys pressed. So when I run the recorded macro, thinking it
will take care of a newly highlighted string, it plays back the string for which I recorded the
macro...

I sure will wait for confirmation of better Word behaviour before upgrading.

ETA: I sure have the fonts etc. problem. So I convert the lot to Pinyin, using the standard
settings. Then I switch to code view mode, and make some search-and-replace, like SimSun to Times
New Roman, and variables normally to hps17, \o\ad, \up 17, jc0 which work fine for my eyes at 150%
zoom. When returning to normal view, I mark the complete document and set it to Times New Roman. I
then don't get the script-type 'a' officially required by Pinyin, but the 1 and 3 vowels don't
have the obnoxious extra space that follows them in my default setup. A bit tedious, but AFAIK
it's the only way to get the result I want.










atitarev -

Consider Wakan as a "ruby" tool. Puts pinyin/furigana above the Chinese/Japanese text. Copying to
another application puts the phonetic guide in the brackets.
This screenshot is for Japanese only:



With a bit of tweaking, this can be converted to "ruby" html pages.

http://www.kawa.net/works/cantonese/canton.cgi
http://www.w3.org/TR/1999/WD-ruby-19990322/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruby_characters

Try saving this piec of code in an HTML page, you perhaps need to install ruby support:


(ni)
 (hao)












Kristyx -

Is there any update on this issue? I'm also using Word 2007 now. I know Word 2003 took some
patience to add pinyin but I can't even find the right tab to do that in Word 2007? Anybody know
how to do it??? Cheers










Sebastien -

An easy way to get the Phonetic Guide in Word 2007:

At the very top left, click the Office Button, click Word Options then select Customize. Drop-down
Choose commands from: and select All Commands. Select Phonetic Guide... from the list and click
Add > >. Click OK.
The new button is now available from the Quick Access Toolbar next to the Office Button.

Thought if you have the same bug as me, you might not get the pinyin when selecting a chinese
character... I'm working at it.














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